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Have you got something
to tell us? A suggestion of a lesser known megalithic wonder which you'd
like us to visit? A question to ask a professional archaeologist or an
expert on prehistoric monuments? Is there a photo of a remote Italian
prehistoric site you'd like to see? From here you can "post" us. We will
put your notice up on this board and try to find you an answer.
10th April, 2000
Paul Griffin
Great work on Apulia. Did you know that modern koreans have discovered
a simple technique to place capstones on uprights to construct dolmens.
It takes all of 2 hours to achieve!! They simply biuld an earthern mound
around the uprights to cover them and pull, yes pull the capstone up onto
the uprights, then remove the earth underneath and seal up the openings
Who said you needed complicated equipment. It is our 1st thinking that
let's us assume this.This was demonstrated for an Irish visiting archaelogist,
Paul Walsh, you can find it, complete with photos in Archaelogy Ireland
magazine.
Thank you Paul for your
message. We already know that the most-accepted theory of dolmen building
involved an earthen mound to support and let slide the capstone above
the uprights. What we didn't know was the time needed to complete the
operation: 2 hours seems a kind of speed record!
9th April, 2000
Bill Davini
Just discovered your amazing site. It is a joy to follow your progress
on this trip. Thank you for the extraordinary work involved in putting
this material together as you go, and for the entertaining and informative
commentary. Looking forward to following your progress. Auguri!
Thank you Bill: our holidays
have always something "megalithic" in them and we're trying
to share our "discoveries" with the Internet community. The
Apulian dolmens and standing stones are a mistery for the Italians too,
so we think it's worth talking about them and showing photos and panoramic
views of these sites on the 'net.
Gaale Klein
Hi - Stumbled on your stonepages site while doing a web-search. Have really
enjoyed looking around. Beautiful pictures! Thank you. Happy and Safe
travels!
It's always a pleasure receiving
compliments like yours: thanks a lot!
Jesper Dannisoee
Dear travellers Best wishes for the success of your tour to Apulia. As
for the nice dishes you are also testing, all we need are the recipes...!
Ah-haaa!!!! Here is someone
who appreciates some good dishes of Italian pasta... Regarding the recipes,
unfortunately we hadn't cooked anything: our Apulian friends (Rosy in
particular) have a sort of "magic touch" and they make wonders
in their kitchens! Anyway, we'll send you some good recipes as soon as
we'll get any!
7th April, 2000
John Emerich
Hi folks, great stuff. I didn't even know there were sites in southern
Italy, very interesting. I'm learning a lot, keep up the good work.
Thank you John. As you
can see, in Apulia there are dozens of prehistoric sites. Unfortunately,
many of them are in a sad state of disrepair and many of them are disappearing
each year... With this website and online diary we're trying to get people
aware of the importance of these ancient sites.
Eric Baumann
Ciao ragazzi! Vi stiamo seguendo tutti i giorni. Complimenti. Ci state
facendo scoprire un sacco di cose. Effettivamente la Puglia dev'essere
bellissima. Chi avrebbe mai pensato che ci fossero tutti questi megaliti
cosi' vicino a casa. Un grande abbraccio anche da parte di Miriam
La Puglia è senza
dubbio una regione sorprendente: girando su rotte lontane dai soliti giri
turistici si possono fare scoperte meravigliose. Speriamo solo di non
annoiarvi, con questa sarabanda di pietre preistoriche...
6th April, 2000
Bill Greer
Hello again, travelers! What is the current archeological opinion of the
original form of the Apulian dolmens? Do experts think that they were
originally covered by earthen or stone mounds that have since been removed
or eroded away (as has often been thought of their British counterparts),
or were they originally uncovered as we see them now? Also, are they Neolithic
or Bronze Age? What is thought about their purpose--have burial remains
been found in any? I'm especially interested in the the tiny dolmen of
Masseria Nuova. I've never seen one
so small. What could it have been for?
A complex question; along
with the help of our friend and expert Toti calò, we'll try to
give you a simple but complete answer.
The original form of Bari/Taranto/Brindisi dolmens (including Montalbano
and Leucaspide) comprised a covering
earth or stone tumulus, now disappeared. In particular, at the end of
18th century the Leucaspide dolmen
was found still covered by its mound. On the other hand, in the Salento
area (that's the province of Lecce) there is no proof of the existence
in the past of a tumulus covering the dolmens.
Regarding the question about the datation of these sites, there is a general
accordance on a period around the second millennium BC. This date, however,
was calculated by analogy with a single similar monument built in Malta:
no radiocarbon dating on Apulian monuments has been made. That's mainly
because very few burial remains have been found in Apulian dolmens. The
only two exceptions are the Chianca and
the now destroyed Salve dolmens. The human/animal burnt remains found
at Chianca have been long lost, while a human lower jaw found at Salve
has never been studied by the Sovrintendenza ai Beni Culturali (the Italian
organization for the cultural heritage).
Finally, regarding the Masseria Nuova
tiny dolmen, as it lies in the Salento area, and it is not associated
with any burial, it was probably a sort of small altar.
Gianna, Giorgio, Eric
& Miriam
Siamo qui tutti insieme seguendo il vostro meraviglioso viaggio, siamo
veramente stupiti per quante cose avete scoperto. Bravi continuate cosi.
un abbraccio affettuoso e buon viaggio.
ps: Non vi abbiamo dimenticati , al contrario , vi scriveremo al + presto
un e-m più dettagliato sulle nostre peripezie!
Grazie ancora: e' bello
condividere le nostre scoperte con gli amici più cari!
5th April, 2000
Bill Greer
Hey, Friends! Here's an idea. I just finished looking at the Chianca
QTVR again. Could you sometimes make a panorama that walks us around
a site looking in--giving us a view of all sides--instead of looking out?
I have absolutely no understanding of this technology, so I don't even
know if this is possible.
Well, it could be made,
but it would be a nightmare to prepare (and photograph). All the shooting
points (at least 16 for a 360-degree panoramic view) would be at the same
distance from the centre of the subject and at the same relative height:
a very hard task if you are on a slope... Then, you should mask (read
"erase") the background, leaving only the main subject of the
photo. In the past, Diego made some object movies of Fiat
and Alfa Romeo
cars: he worked for about 4 days to complete each object movie... So it
isn't practical to prepare these movies "on the road"!
Zeli & Orfeo
Hail Paola e Diego,un saluto ed un augurio di "calma di vento e viaggio
felice" per il vostro navigare in Apulia Felix alla busca di pietre
fitte. Una piccola richiesta: ce lo fate vedere il volto de Il Monaco.
A presto,
Grazie per gli auguri,
amici: il volto del Monaco (quello in pietra, ovviamente) lo potete trovare
qui
3rd April, 2000
Pete Glastonbury
Happy Hols! Great Pics! I feel like I'm hitching a ride in your rucksack!
All these wonderful stones I would never get to see, thank you! Best wishes,
Thank you Pete: we need
encouragement like yours, especially when it's 4 a.m. and we have to write
the diary pages...
Giovanni DiMonopoli
Com'è la Puglia? Interessante? A presto. PS: avete scoperto le
orecchiette?
La Puglia è veramente
splendida: sia la regione che gli abitanti (ovviamente). Alle orecchiette,
poi, non si scampa: buonissime!
Bill Greer
Yes, Montalbano is reminiscent of
St. Lythans
(which Linda & I haven't visited) but for the forecourt. Once these Apulian
sites are included in Stone Pages
--that is the plan, isn't it?-- I'll be very much interested in explanations
and descriptions. But for what I've read of your Italian sites, I am completely
ignorant of them. May the road rise to meet you...
We will surely add the
Apulian sites we're visiting in our Stones
of Italy section: we only need some 128-hour days (spare time is always
soooo precious)!
1st April, 2000
Bill Greer
Hola! I'm glad to see that you're on the road and reporting. Chianca
looks like a very interesting little dolmen, with its short avenue/forecourt.
There's nothing quite like it in Britain that I can think of. I'll be
interested to see, as your tour continues, if there are others of that
design. Travel well, friends. I'll check the site daily.
Hello Bill, it's good
to hear you again. Regarding the shape of Chianca dolmen, we've been told
by a local expert (an confirmed by our guidebooks) that there are several
other Apulian dolmens with the same avenue/forecourt. We will surely visit
them and put their photos online. For the moment, have a look at Montalbano
dolmen. Don't you think it looks very much like St.Lythans
in Wales?
Gianna e Giorgio Baumann
Ciao carissimi, é semplicemente meraviglioso seguire il vostro viaggio, bravi e buona fortuna, cercheremo di seguirvi, a presto Gianna e Giorgio
Ciao Gianna e Giorgio:
anche a noi piace molto l'idea di tenere un diario di viaggio online,
in modo da poter condividere le nostre scoperte e le nostre impressioni
con gli amiic piu' cari, quasi in tempo reale. Il rovescio della medaglia
è che per ogni "puntata" del diario c'è bisogno di almeno
5 ore di lavoro... Comunque ne vale la pena! E poi la Puglia é
bellissima...
Kathleen Hebald Looking forward to "seeing" images on your website from this current trek. Good show! Luv, Kat
Dear Kathleen, now there
are several images on this website: you can see them from the diary
pages or from this list. Thanks for the encouragement
too! Love, D&P
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